Of all the streets that blur in to the sunset,
There must be one (which, I am not sure)
That I by now have walked for the last time
Without guessing it, the pawn of that Someone

Who fixes in advance omnipotent laws,
Sets up a secret and unwavering scale
for all the shadows, dreams, and forms
Woven into the texture of this life.

If there is a limit to all things and a measure
And a last time and nothing more and forgetfulness,
Who will tell us to whom in this house
We without knowing it have said farewell?

Through the dawning window night withdraws
And among the stacked books which throw
Irregular shadows on the dim
table
There must be one which I will never read.

There is in the South more than one worn gate,
With its cement urns and planted cactus,
Which is already forbidden to my entry,
Inaccessible, as in a lithograph.

There is a door you have closed forever
And some mirror is expecting you in vain;
To you the crossroads seem wide open,
Yet watching you, four-faced, is a Janus.

There is among all your memories one
Which has now been lost beyond recall.
You will not be seen going down to that
fountain
Neither by white sun nor by yellow moon.

You will never recapture what the Persian
Said in his language woven with birds and roses,
When, in the sunset, before the light disperses,
You wish to give words to unforgettable things.

And the steadily flowing Rhone and the lake,
All that vast yesterday over which today I bend?
They will be as lost as Carthage,
Scourged by the Romans
with fire and salt.

At dawn I seem to hear the turbulent
Murmur of crowds milling and fading away
They are all I have been loved by, forgotten by;
Space, time, and Borges now are leaving me.


QUESTIONS:
1. What do you think the theme/message is in the poem?
2. How does the title relate to the poem and explain why?
3. What are your thoughts on the setting of this poem and what would your reaction be to those type of surroundings?
Miss Robertson
11/17/2009 03:57:29 am

I think the theme or message of this poem is that there are many opportunities and experiences that, because of certain decisions a person may have or have not made, are already closed off to them. They may not even be aware of the doors that they have clsoed or the people they wont be in relation with.
The title "Limits" relates to the poem, because the entire poem talks about the ways that people limit themselves perhapd without even realizing what they are doing. The metaphorical "doors" or opportunities that are really not available to them any more.
This poem doesn't really have a setting.

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Eisher Saroya
11/17/2009 06:23:10 am

I think the title is name limits because, the entire poem is on how we limit ourselves.

Response to Miss Robertson: I agree tha there isn't really a setting in the poem.

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Amy Yang
11/17/2009 08:20:43 am

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Sandra Nguyen
11/17/2009 08:31:22 am

Question 2
I think the title "Limits" relates to the poems because of how the poem writes about people limiting themselves, sometimes without even knowing. There's doors of opportunities that some don't even take, or close on themselves.
I agree with Miss Robertson's and Eisher's responses, I also had similar thoughts.

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Amy Yang
11/17/2009 08:43:34 am

Sorry guys for the confusion, when we wrote that question we meant it as like what kind of image of a setting comes to your mind when you read the poemm like how it talks about a lake, the sunset etc. But it's okay...

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Amelia Burger
11/17/2009 09:15:52 am

I think that the title of the poem which is Limits relates to the fact that everyone's life has a limit. In the first stanza Borges is talking about how he has walked one of those streets for the last time which would imply that he's not coming back. In the last line he says "Borges now are leaving me" I think he's not coming back and he's saying that he is leaving himself because he knows he is going to die soon.

@Sandra
I didn't think of it that way, but that makes a lot more sense.

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raziel tolentino
11/17/2009 09:18:51 am

ok so the image that comes to my head is like a lake with romans with torches...thats what i see...

i agree with miss robertson and Sandra. i had like the same thoughts.

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Amelia Burger
11/17/2009 09:40:39 am

I agree with Miss Rpbertson about the theme of the poem.

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Nathan Butschli
11/17/2009 09:47:25 am

Q2
I think the title relates to the poem because because the poem describes how there is a limit for everything and that everyone must limit themselves.

@Eisher
I agree that is what I was thinking too.

@Sandra
I agree those were my thoughts too.

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Robbie Nack
11/17/2009 09:53:15 am

IIIII think that the theme of the poem is that you dont know what oppurtunities or things you have untill there gone. LIke things that are just given to you with no charge to you. Once you dont have it, you'll see that you actually depended on that thing very much.

lol Raziel

I agree with sandrah about the whole title relating to the poem, and i also agree with Amelia, who has the same idea


I agree with

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Robbie Nack
11/17/2009 09:54:25 am

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ignore that last i agree with lol

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Uma Trivede
11/17/2009 10:20:03 am

Thanks for answering our questions...

Amelia:I agree that the title relates to the fact that everyone's life has a limit.

Raziel:That is an interesting perspective to what image comes to your mind, and after rereading the poem I can kind of see where that image comes from.

Nathan: I agree that this poem might be called "Limits" because it describes how everything has limits.

Robbie: That is a good theme and it makes sense to how it relates to this poem.


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Rachel Uomoto
11/17/2009 10:33:26 am

question 2; the title relates to the poem because there is a limit for everything and everyone.

response to amelia burger: i agree
response to eisher soroya: i agree

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Amy Yang
11/17/2009 10:35:59 am

Good job guys replying to the poem

Robbie: I never actually thought of it that way, good analysis and phrasing of the words.


Amelia: Good job analysing too, especially the pat where it says Borges is now leaving me, that took me awhile to see whats being converyed.

Sandra: Nice analyzing the different perpesctives played there, on how some may not even know it...

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Lenstine Pak
11/17/2009 10:50:43 am

Question 1:
I think the theme of the poem is that there is almost an unlimited of opportunities and that humans have no limit.

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Lenstine Pak
11/17/2009 10:52:11 am

@Robbie
Nice description

@Sandra
I agree

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Jeannette Yu
11/17/2009 11:05:42 am

Q1: I pretty much agree with Mrs. Robertson's interpretation, but I have some of my own ideas to add. If there was a message the author wanted to give, like something you should do, I don't really think it's just 'beware of what choices you make'. Certainly its there, but despite the almost sad theme of loss in this poem, it's not really a sad poem. Its...fact. well the fact of loss is a fact. But the poem is like talking about the paths you take lead you places and you can't take a back step, you can't stop moving, you can't give up and you have to accept the burdens you now have even if you long to be a child again, long for the friends you pushed away, or something. The whole theme of this poem is hindsight, or like how there are limits to what we can do in life. You were born poor, those were the cards you were dealt, its near impossible to get rich in your life. There are limits.
Then you pass away, and there are limits to people's memory...

@Robbie That adds a certain twist to my interpretation. When I think of it the way you did, I can certainly see how you might realize you don't have something you terribly relied on. So I agree. The only thing I'm curious about, is how that relates to being forgotten. Unless its people's attention you lost....which is a very sad, but intriguing thing.

@Amelia hah you had the same idea of death that I did. Borges is now leaving, that could mean something else, but death certainly fits very smoothly in there. It'd be interesting with an alternate meaning though, like Borge is now leaving their minds, or (i don't why i'm thinking this) but decides it doesnt matter if people don't remember him. It's just 'leaving' seems to imply a possible 'stop caring about your opinion' thing in this situation too. Who knows, there are tons of ways to interpret this.

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Dana Diaz
11/17/2009 11:08:37 am

I think the title "Limits" relates to the poem because, as people have said, it is about how people limit themselves and their opportunities.


Response to Robbie:

I agree with your interpretation.

Response to Sandra:

I agree with your thought about people limiting themselves even without knowing sometimes.

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11/17/2009 11:26:03 am

question 2;
I think that the poem is called Limits because it is about how people tend to set limits for themselves that they don't try to pass but that that is not a good thing.

at Dana;
I agree, muchoo.

at miss. robertson;
I agree about the theme. well said.

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Max Meaker
11/17/2009 11:26:54 am

Question 2

I think the title "Limits" relates to this poem because the poem talks about limits that people have and put on themselves.

Response to Robbie:
I agree with you.

Response to Nathan:
I agree with what you said.

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Sierra Wollen
11/17/2009 11:31:03 am

You're all doing good.
Yay for motivation.

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Vanessa Tordillos
11/17/2009 11:37:52 am

Q2:
I think the title "Limits" relates to the poems because it's about how people limit themselves.

@Rachel: i agree with you.
@Robbie: i also agree with you.

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Uma Trivede
11/17/2009 11:50:51 am

Thanks to all of you for answering our poem blog questions....

Rachel:I agree that the title may have been named "Limits" because there is a limit for everything and everyone.

Lenstine: That is a good theme and I found it interesting how you said that humans have no limits.

Jeanette:I agree with your theme, and good job in supporting your ideas to explain your theme.

Dana:I agree that the title was named "Limits" because the poem is about how people limit themselves and their opportunities.

Christine:I agree with your idea behind why the title was named "Limits", and you brought a good point about how people tend to set limits that they don't try to pass.

Max:I agree that the title may have been named "Limits" because the poem talks about limits that people have and put on themselves.

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Uma Trivede
11/17/2009 11:54:29 am

Vanessa: I agree that the title "Limits" relates to the poem because the poem explains how people limit themselves.

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Hannah Freitag
11/17/2009 11:54:46 am

Q2
I think that the poem is called Limits because of the limits that people already have on them. Overall, this poem seems like it's about missed oppurtunities and chances because of the limits of life and being only human. This poem does not seem overly regretful and sad, so I get the impression that Borges is simply stating that everyone misses oppurtunities, and everyone has thier own limits.

@Jeannette
I agree, it seems more like fact and accepting that then it seems regretful. It is kind of a sad message, but it doesn't give off a sad tone.

@Lenstine
I didn't really see it like that but I can understand that interpretation. I see it as kind of more of a no escaping your limits thing than an unlimited possiblities thing.

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Eisher Saroya
11/17/2009 12:46:23 pm

Response to Robbie:
I agree

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John Jeffery
11/17/2009 01:03:18 pm

I think that the poem is called Limits, because it is telling us peoples limits that they have.

I agree with Dana

I agree with Max

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Robbie Nack
11/17/2009 01:08:00 pm

im so popular.
w00t w00t

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Matt Martin
11/17/2009 01:32:39 pm

The name "Limits" relates to the poem because it discusses the limitations that people are forced to recognize, whether it it caused by themselves or other forces.

@Mrs. Robertson: I agree there is no real setting in the poem

@Robbie: I agree iwth your interpretation

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Kiera Brunson
11/17/2009 01:50:06 pm

Q1
I think the theme is that there are boundries to everything.

I agree with Matt this peom reconizes limits.

I agree with Max that poeple put limits on to them selfs

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Dominic
11/17/2009 01:57:26 pm

I think the message of this poem is that this is the last part of his life and he has many regrets and lost chances

I agree with Mattismo

I agree with Cristine


lolz. robbie funnaaaay

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Emily Ross
11/17/2009 02:21:22 pm

I think the title is name limits because, the entire poem is on how we limit ourselves.

I agree with Kiera.

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Kevin K
11/9/2011 11:59:45 pm

Q#2: He’s struggling w/ the fact he’s bound by limitations yet unaware of what those limitations are and how he will b impacted by them.

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Coco
9/25/2012 11:12:51 pm

This poem is about the passing of humans. Nothing will survive when we are gone. We are being erased, one by one. And that's ok.

I think the title sets up a paradox, Limits are only those of death. When we are alive, we can be so much, do so much.

Surroundings are Borges' delights; he will miss them when he dies and we will miss hime and them. Borges gives us pleasure

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Salim Douba
12/20/2013 03:44:00 am

I agree with Jeannette Yu on most points. I'd like to add that the poem embodies a strong existential element. I don't believe that it speaks to the limits we impose upon ourselves. It rather raises a point that Jean Paul Sartre once summarized when he wrote "men are condemned to be free". Reading through this poem which continues to fascinate and inspired my art and photography, the poet was more emphatic on the fact that regardless of choices you have you are "condemned" to choose. Even no choice is by itself a choice. And further to the point regardless of what you choose there is no way telling of what you might have left behind. Death will catch up to you eventually, and the legacy that you leave behind is speaks more of the limits that life tend to impose on you that how the freedom to choose entails loss; not only gains. It is Luis Borges who also wrote a short poem that is just as vocal about the theme set in "Limits" and it is no surprise that he titled it "Boundaries". Here it is:

"Boundaries" by Jorge Luis Borges

There is a line by Verlaine that I will not remember again.
There is a street nearby that is off limits to my feet.
There is a mirror that has seen me for the last time.
There is a door I have closed until the end of the world.
Among the books in my library (I'm looking at them now)
are some I will never open.
This summer I will be fifty years old.
Death is using me up, relentlessly.

Both poems resonate with existentialism. At least as far as I could tell.

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12/20/2013 03:44:24 am

I agree with Jeannette Yu on most points. I'd like to add that the poem embodies a strong existential element. I don't believe that it speaks to the limits we impose upon ourselves. It rather raises a point that Jean Paul Sartre once summarized when he wrote "men are condemned to be free". Reading through this poem which continues to fascinate and inspired my art and photography, the poet was more emphatic on the fact that regardless of choices you have you are "condemned" to choose. Even no choice is by itself a choice. And further to the point regardless of what you choose there is no way telling of what you might have left behind. Death will catch up to you eventually, and the legacy that you leave behind is speaks more of the limits that life tend to impose on you that how the freedom to choose entails loss; not only gains. It is Luis Borges who also wrote a short poem that is just as vocal about the theme set in "Limits" and it is no surprise that he titled it "Boundaries". Here it is:

"Boundaries" by Jorge Luis Borges

There is a line by Verlaine that I will not remember again.
There is a street nearby that is off limits to my feet.
There is a mirror that has seen me for the last time.
There is a door I have closed until the end of the world.
Among the books in my library (I'm looking at them now)
are some I will never open.
This summer I will be fifty years old.
Death is using me up, relentlessly.

Both poems resonate with existentialism. At least as far as I could tell.

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Salim Douba
12/20/2013 03:46:13 am

I agree with Jeannette Yu on most points. I'd like to add that the poem embodies a strong existential element. I don't believe that it speaks to the limits we impose upon ourselves. It rather raises a point that Jean Paul Sartre once summarized when he wrote "men are condemned to be free". Reading through this poem which continues to fascinate and inspired my art and photography, the poet was more emphatic on the fact that regardless of choices you have you are "condemned" to choose. Even no choice is by itself a choice. And further to the point regardless of what you choose there is no way telling of what you might have left behind. Death will catch up to you eventually, and the legacy that you leave behind is speaks more of the limits that life tend to impose on you that how the freedom to choose entails loss; not only gains. It is Luis Borges who also wrote a short poem that is just as vocal about the theme set in "Limits" and it is no surprise that he titled it "Boundaries". Here it is:

"Boundaries" by Jorge Luis Borges

There is a line by Verlaine that I will not remember again.
There is a street nearby that is off limits to my feet.
There is a mirror that has seen me for the last time.
There is a door I have closed until the end of the world.
Among the books in my library (I'm looking at them now)
are some I will never open.
This summer I will be fifty years old.
Death is using me up, relentlessly.

Both poems resonate with existentialism. At least as far as I could tell.

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Salim Douba
12/20/2013 03:47:03 am

I agree with Jeannette Yu on most points. I'd like to add that the poem embodies a strong existential element. I don't believe that it speaks to the limits we impose upon ourselves. It rather raises a point that Jean Paul Sartre once summarized when he wrote "men are condemned to be free". Reading through this poem which continues to fascinate and inspired my art and photography, the poet was more emphatic on the fact that regardless of choices you have you are "condemned" to choose. Even no choice is by itself a choice. And further to the point regardless of what you choose there is no way telling of what you might have left behind. Death will catch up to you eventually, and the legacy that you leave behind is speaks more of the limits that life tend to impose on you that how the freedom to choose entails loss; not only gains. It is Luis Borges who also wrote a short poem that is just as vocal about the theme set in "Limits" and it is no surprise that he titled it "Boundaries". Here it is:

"Boundaries" by Jorge Luis Borges

There is a line by Verlaine that I will not remember again.
There is a street nearby that is off limits to my feet.
There is a mirror that has seen me for the last time.
There is a door I have closed until the end of the world.
Among the books in my library (I'm looking at them now)
are some I will never open.
This summer I will be fifty years old.
Death is using me up, relentlessly.

Both poems resonate with existentialism. At least as far as I could tell.

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chey
1/28/2014 05:56:50 am

What is the allusion in this poem?

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Yure
6/29/2016 12:19:34 am

It seems to me that ''Limits'' refer more to the limits of being a human, rather than to the choices we make.

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